Featured writings of Paul have a lot of repeating as if an honest editor . . . . Plus was Christ and Resurrection first believed to happen in Heaven ? ??

[bbyrd009]

you just suddenly see a diff interpretation for the passages that you defined a certain way, for so long?

I see an interpretation that is theologically incorrect and not believed by any denomination.

um, which interpretation are we talking about, again? If you will be specific, we can def take a look eh

 

[Scooter]

you just suddenly see a diff interpretation for the passages that you defined a certain way, for so long?

I see an interpretation that is theologically incorrect and not believed by any denomination.

um, which interpretation are we talking about, again? If you will be specific, we can def take a look eh

Pretty much all of your views are theologically incorrect

 

[bbyrd009]

you just suddenly see a diff interpretation for the passages that you defined a certain way, for so long?

I see an interpretation that is theologically incorrect and not believed by any denomination.

um, which interpretation are we talking about, again? If you will be specific, we can def take a look eh

Pretty much all of your views are theologically incorrect

Well, what would someone inside the camp say to someone outside the camp though? But again, fwiw, ive done this several times now, so that is fairly fam with me, and i dont even blame you, ok. So all of my views are “theologically incorrect” but you cant specify any, fine.

An interesting exercise for that is to seek out someone whose theological “beliefs” most closely align with yours and have a discussion with them about some theo~logical concepts, and see how long it is until you have found something to disagree about; but no one really does this on purpose i guess, so what happens is it just happens anyway, in the natural course of things, since no one agrees on everything. So get ready for that.

Which im telling you this bc normal humans just naturally tend to align with those who agree with them, and tend to reserve warm fuzzy feelings for them over someone they disagree with? And discovering the truth can damage or destroy the relationship, which i would prefer not to be responsible for again ok. And by that i mean again and again, hence this paragraph.

And when something specific comes to mind dont be shy, ok? While idk anything that everyone else doesnt already know, having access to a voice outside our echo chambers can be useful sometimes. Which trust me i have them too lol, i tried fighting that for a while but they just like spontaneously form around you i think

 

[bbyrd009]

Yes, the Bible is full of apparent contradictions, which turn out to not be contradictory at all when understood, but the discussion often turns into a competition that im just not interested in, and we have better means to contemplate them anyway now, bc websites are devoted to the subject, where you can get several diff perspectives

I think many people have a similar view. That if we look at the holy book too closely, well, something useful in hard times just might evaporate.

We might call ourselves “religion nerds” ? ! ?

* interested in subject of religion, may or may not be religious ourselves, and perhaps not in traditional ways

Ever studied where that word came from? In Greek its female (duh), and there is no Hebrew equivalent. I forget how now, but i recall getting to “that done by repetition, rote, or ritual,” which struck me as a decent enough summary. There’s also several Scriptures that reflect that pov, at least apparently, which i say bc in typical Bible fashion the identity of the subject is obscured.

So, i mean obv i get what you mean by religion, and i even usually use it the same way, but really i drink a cup of coffee every morning, religiously

 

[bbyrd009]

Anyway Scooter, as near i can tell im as full of crap as the next guy, ok? Which i understand immediately presents an opportunity for a joke by you, but understand what im really saying; idk everything, sometimes im a little off or just plain wrong, but i will even present any new evidence that goes against my pov, too. I dont attach my self to my answers, iow

 

[Scooter]

So all of my views are “theologically incorrect” but you cant specify any, fine.

I listed several incorrect theological views you have on post #32 of this thread. Again, you are free to believe whatever you want, but when you present incorrect views of the Bible, I will point them out.

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

Yes, the Bible is full of apparent contradictions, which turn out to not be contradictory at all when understood, but the discussion often turns into a competition that im just not interested in, and we have better means to contemplate them anyway now, bc websites are devoted to the subject, where you can get several diff perspectives

I think many people have a similar view. That if we look at the holy book too closely, well, something useful in hard times just might evaporate.

We might call ourselves “religion nerds” ? ! ?

* interested in subject of religion, may or may not be religious ourselves, and perhaps not in traditional ways

Ever studied where that word came from? In Greek its female (duh), and there is no Hebrew equivalent. I forget how now, but i recall getting to “that done by repetition, rote, or ritual,” which struck me as a decent enough summary. There’s also several Scriptures that reflect that pov, at least apparently, which i say bc in typical Bible fashion the identity of the subject is obscured.

So, i mean obv i get what you mean by religion, and i even usually use it the same way, but really i drink a cup of coffee every morning, religiously

That is interesting that ancient Hebrew did not have a word for “religion.” Which was very much the ocean people’s thoughts swam in those days. With mysterious forces of nature and imperfect regularity of seasons and so forth.

PS. Do you think the ancient Israelites were more religious than most persons of the time?

 

[Multicolored Lemur]

Again, you are free to believe whatever you want, but when you present incorrect views of the Bible, I will point them out.

But Scooter, you point out few if any websites.

You could say, “Here’s a pretty good website which presents the mainstream Evangelical Christian view. although I disagree on a few details . . . “ — But No, you provide nothing of the sort.

 

[Scooter]

Again, you are free to believe whatever you want, but when you present incorrect views of the Bible, I will point them out.

But Scooter, you point out few if any websites.

You could say, “Here’s a pretty good website which presents the mainstream Evangelical Christian view. although I disagree on a few details . . . “ — But No, you provide nothing of the sort.

My knowledge of the Bible does not come from a website. My knowledge comes from almost 30 years of study and experience. My library contains books from Matthew Henry, Matthew Poole, Warren Weirsbe, J. Vernon McGee, the multi volume Preachers Outline and Study Bible as well as numerous others. You are more than welcome to take what I offer and research it for yourself.

 

[bbyrd009]

So all of my views are “theologically incorrect” but you cant specify any, fine.

I listed several incorrect theological views you have on post #32 of this thread. Again, you are free to believe whatever you want, but when you present incorrect views of the Bible, I will point them out.

well, your response to that was that all i had was imagination, but wikipedia has a thing on Hel, and the progression has already been traced by others, did hell come from norse/angle scribes? Has gotten a little harder to search, but i mean not a whole lot. Plus you can see that Abaddon etc are transliterated, and not even considered “hell,” so you would still have to point out how the view is incorrect

But also you dont have to, ok? You can believe that Hel is an accurate allegory for Gehenna if you like, eh. I am completely ok with that. Eternal can still mean “forever” to you, you can keep decorating trees at xmas and rolling eggs and bunnies and whatever fertility rites at Easter lol, none of that suddenly disappears bc of some guy on the web, right. I mean fertility rites at Oestre in “church” is how i first got laid lol. As i said i even sing “Here comes Santa Claus” with the rest of them…even if i just cant bring myself to decorate a tree anymore. Did i say that here? might have been Quora, idk

Anyway the point is i hate to give you the impression that you have to choose some position on my account…to die on some hill that you might later find youd like to change your mind on? Bc see really i am not free to believe what i want; i voluntarily subject my beliefs to a gauntlet, that i even include you in, lets say, and i actually seek the pointing out wherever i can find it

iow you might be right, let’s put it through the fire and see lol