Multicolored Lemur

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Because urban legend is a Big Universe.

Maybe because by the time Christians started developing traction, several years had passed. And Jesus had been buried anonymously as a criminal.

Or, maybe Jewish leaders argued among themselves whether it was better to ignore Christians or actively suppressing them including by murder. And maybe they went back and forth on this.
 
Some of the letters of Paul — such as Galatians and 1st Corinthians — were written before the Gospels. Maybe the first letters were written as early as 50 AD.

And that surprised me.
 
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The Bible deserves the same respect as any other ancients book, but not more so.
 
The Bible deserves the same respect as any other ancients book, but not more so.
How many lives have been as drastically changed from the Iliad as have been from the Bible? What other book has spared as many souls from Hell as the Bible has? I’m sorry but your assertion is rather incorrect.
 
Your topic asks Why didn't Jewish leaders dig up the dead body of "Jewish"... did you mean to say dig up the dead body of "Jesus"?
Because urban legend is a Big Universe.

Maybe because by the time Christians started developing traction, several years had passed. And Jesus had been buried anonymously as a criminal.

Or, maybe Jewish leaders argued among themselves whether it was better to ignore Christians or actively suppressing them including by murder. And maybe they went back and forth on this.
I'm not sure about the urban legend part because some scholars say that the belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus began as an oral creed that even predates Paul's writings. In fact, some scholars date this creed to even a few months or years after Jesus's death.

Here's from a skeptic and historical scholar, Dr. Richard Carrier responding to a Christian claim:
I keep hearing Christian apologists insisting the Corinthian Creed (1 Cor. 15:3-8) can be reliably dated to the 30s A.D., just years or even months after Jesus died. Can you direct me to a solid refutation of that claim?
The answer is no. Because there is no refutation of this claim—other than “maybe possibly it originated later,” which is the logical fallacy of possibiliter ergo probabiliter (“it’s possible, therefore it’s probable,” see Proving History, index). In fact the evidence for this creed dating to the very origin of the religion is amply strong; and there is no reasonable basis for claiming otherwise.

Your other two explanations are more plausible.
 
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Your topic asks Why didn't Jewish leaders dig up the dead body of "Jewish"... did you mean to say dig up the dead body of "Jesus"?
Because urban legend is a Big Universe.

Maybe because by the time Christians started developing traction, several years had passed. And Jesus had been buried anonymously as a criminal.

Or, maybe Jewish leaders argued among themselves whether it was better to ignore Christians or actively suppressing them including by murder. And maybe they went back and forth on this.
I'm not sure about the urban legend part because some scholars say that the belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus began as an oral creed that even predates Paul's writings. In fact, some scholars date this creed to even a few months or years after Jesus's death.

Here's from a skeptic and historical scholar, Dr. Richard Carrier responding to a Christian claim:
I keep hearing Christian apologists insisting the Corinthian Creed (1 Cor. 15:3-8) can be reliably dated to the 30s A.D., just years or even months after Jesus died. Can you direct me to a solid refutation of that claim?
The answer is no. Because there is no refutation of this claim—other than “maybe possibly it originated later,” which is the logical fallacy of possibiliter ergo probabiliter (“it’s possible, therefore it’s probable,” see Proving History, index). In fact the evidence for this creed dating to the very origin of the religion is amply strong; and there is no reasonable basis for claiming otherwise.

Your other two explanations are more plausible.
The act of so-called resurrection is not Biblically unique for ancient texts century's older use that scenario as well as virgin birth.
 
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What other book has spared as many souls from Hell as the Bible has?
The Bible has a lot of problems and issues.

What about the letters of Paul being written before the Gospels and being way different? For example, Paul hardly talks about Jesus’ life at all! In 1st Corinthians, which I’m pretty familiar with, there’s not a single mention of the adulteress brought forward and Jesus saying “let he who is without sin . . ,” or the Good Samaritan, or the Miracle of the Loaves & Fishes.

PS Please notice I try to give equal billing to the positive parts [ in my world view, of course].

And I do recommend reading the Bible as literature and as a nonbeliever. Somewhat sparingly, truth be told.
 
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Your topic asks Why didn't Jewish leaders dig up the dead body of "Jewish"... did you mean to say dig up the dead body of "Jesus"?
Thank you!

And I went ahead and fixed the error. Although it’s kind of a lucky error, in that it emphasizes that Jesus was in the group and then he rebelled and did his own thing that hardly anyone could understand. I mean, Jesus may have been viewed as like a traitor!