Featured Is pyrokinesis real?

[AgnosticBoy]

The videos below show 2 tai chi practitioners being able to generate enough body heat or channel their energy to ignite a fire. I'm more interested in seeing approach more than trying to solve if these feats are real or not. I'm predicting that some would dismiss these from the start, others may look for evidence first, some might become believers after being in awe, and others might do differently.

:55 to 1:30 mark

From 1:30 to 2:30 minute marks ..

Are defeats and these videos real or fake? What's your view and how would you approach this if someone did this in front of you?

 

[rebel]

This is obviously fake.
How can that amount of heat be generated without burning the body?

 

[AgnosticBoy]

There's a chance, it could be faked. I have no evidence though that is the case.

I had one skeptic a few years ago that the paper was doused with some gasoline before the filming started and the pyro guy had a lighter. Problem is that you'd be able to see a lighter given his hands were part of what was being filmed.

Here's the best thing I always recommend to do in these types of cases. Researchers simply need to probe further in a serious way instead of dismissing these feats. Get to the bottom of it, learn how it works, and then maybe we can answer how the body is able to generate enough heat to burn paper but not burn the body itself.

 

[rebel]

Get to the bottom of it, learn how it works, and then maybe we can answer how the body is able to generate enough heat to burn paper but not burn the body itself.

We already know how burns happen. All observations show that tissue burns when placed in fire.

There aren't any burn injuries on this guy which means his body did not generate the heat.

 

[rebel]

Its been studied before. Just watch this

 

[AgnosticBoy]

We already know how burns happen. All observations show that tissue burns when placed in fire.

There aren't any burn injuries on this guy which means his body did not generate the heat.

I agree with the observation part of course, but my response or conclusion is different than yours. Where you and others dismiss the video as being fake because the hands weren't burned, I say we need to look into it more or suspend judgement. And it's not just for curiosity sake that I'd want to look into this more. It's also because prior observations may not hold here, or there could be exceptions, like if this guy has some unique ability or something supernatural is going on. If we simply dismiss every matter that doesn't square with our current knowledge and observations, then that could lead to supernatural things going unnoticed because we ignore it. Ideally, I'd want an approach that would allow us to evidence anything, supernatural or natural.

As I brought up in the first post, I'm not so much concerned about what really happened in these vides as I am with approach:

interested in seeing approach more than trying to solve if these feats are real or not.

In the video, the guys hands weren't burned. So what happened? Where did the heat come from? You can say he had put gasoline on the paper beforehand, but is there evidence for that as opposed to what he is claiming that he is using some type of "chi"? For me to dismiss this video, would basically take evidence that this was fake - evidence that the heat came from an external source.

 

[AgnosticBoy]

Just a little more backgrounds on the 2nd video. Through an unofficial source, I found one person saying the 2nd video is from a 1988 documentary that was called, Ring of Fire.
Source:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=498741403962768

I can't vouch for its accuracy. But did find that documentary listed on Wikipedia. It is part of a 5 series documentary. The description seems to go with Series #3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire:_An_Indonesian_Odyssey

Also, the energy the subject is using is called "chi" 33 seconds in 2nd video). The subject goes on to say that he developed this energy by meditating everyday (refer to minute marks between 1:13 to 1:35). So perhaps this isn't just regular heat energy, but is actually something more or entirely different.

I'd want to look further into what "chi" is. Is it some form of energy? Can it be measured directly or indirectly? Has anyone already been looking into it?

 

[AgnosticBoy]

More on chi... not a definitive source but a good place to start...

I Googled, "Is chi energy?".. The Google Ai responded with this:

Chi, often spelled qi, is a fundamental concept in traditional Chinese medicine and philosophy. It refers to the vital life force or energy that flows through all living things, animating and sustaining them. While not a scientifically proven physical substance, chi is considered essential for health and vitality in various Eastern practices.

Chi is believed to have various forms and can manifest in different ways, including warmth, tingling, or other sensations in the body.

Practices like qigong, taichi, acupuncture, and acupressure are used to cultivate, balance, and regulate the flow of chi.