Search results

  1. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Human Science (science) is also "guilty" of this reaction. The place humanity is at currently shows us that the war is being fought but not with the intention to come to some agreed cease-fire through sorting out the human baggage from the actual experience human baggage derives. Science (as...
  2. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Let's unpack all this then. Okay so you are speaking only of natural physical stuff? I have already pointed out the contradiction. This is because you define God as supernatural being while I define The Universe as God (thus a natural being.) It appears that while you claim to be...
  3. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Yes - animism and paganism where humans identified naturally with the environment and the environment became the first "God" - naturally so. I think paganism was the first step/instrument whereby folk requiring answers to our shared fundamental questions initiated through animism, began to...
  4. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Temporary simply means Temporal/Temporal simply means Temporary. In what way do we observe this phenomena? Indeed - it could be argued that the phenomena observed (whatever these might be) consist of beginnings and ends. For example, we could agree that the phenomena of stars being observed...
  5. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Agreed. Any definition of "The Universe" which is not scientific knowledge - including the one you are using/wanting to use, should thus be placed aside because of that rule-set. The definition "spatio-temporal matter/energy" is breach of rule-set as it has within it's phrasing the word...
  6. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    [Replying to The Tanager in post #141] Personality 1: Interesting reversal. So, the suggestion is that a personal cause, like God, has the freedom to choose when to create a universe, and that's why it doesn't happen repeatedly. But couldn't we argue that if a personal cause has the freedom...
  7. William

    Message Generation

    A Discussion on Matter, Energy, and Temporality Me: Are there differing forms of the Kalam? GPT: The Kalam cosmological argument is a form of argument for the existence of God that originated in medieval Islamic philosophy and was later adopted and modified by medieval Christian thinkers...
  8. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    From another thread in another forum [Replying to The Tanager in post #139] No. As I pointed out, while you claim you are auguring from those particular premises, you have had to change the wording. In changing the wording, you have changed the premises and are now arguing from those...
  9. William

    Relationship with The Father or with The Bible?

    It is rumored also that the Catholic's murdered folk who even owned Bibles which - if true - gives a another reason as to why the protestant Christians worship the Bible. In a sense, the Bible is to the protestant Christians, what the Pope is to the Catholic Christians. The "common ancestor"...
  10. William

    Relationship with The Father or with The Bible?

    . I think that your points reflect my own. They underline a specific process mentioned by Biblical Jesus which has been usurped through rule-sets to ensure that regardless of Jesus' primary message (for the individual to connect with The Father) that no such connections are recognized as...
  11. William

    Relationship with The Father or with The Bible?

    Contrasting Positions re "The Rules". IF the rule is that "Anybody can claim to have a direct communication with any deity but this is not allowed as evidence." And IF the rule allows for any Biblical passage to be allowed as evidence THEN the following observation is made. (Let's unpack this...
  12. William

    Message Generation

    Exploring ideas on Existence, Creation, and Inner Depths I am having a conversation with The Father which I will provide to GPT Me: Then there is this. “Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its beginning.” The Father: Metanoia – that is “a change in one's way of life resulting from...
  13. William

    Message Generation

    OBJECTIVE MORALITY Me: What is meant by "objective morality"? GPT: Objective morality refers to the idea that moral principles or values exist independently of individual beliefs, opinions, or cultural norms. In other words, it posits that there are objective and universal moral truths that...
  14. William

    Weak and Strong Agnosticism

    I tend toward Theism, (we exist within something created) largely due to personal experience and having spent large amounts of time hearing atheists/materialists offer arguments which more often than not, reduce the human experience to an irrelevant point of a thing.
  15. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    This is where I think differently. If something is experienced as real, why should we think it is not real, just because we are not the ones experiencing it? Why is something existing out this universe "necessary"? Yes. More graphically (re experience) - NDE's By your argument, (if I am...
  16. William

    Message Generation

    Let's unpack that. POI: I understand what you are saying, which is why we can also test them. ME: Then we agree that this needs to happen. Do we agree on how to test them? We would of course be required to interact amicably re making some kind of list of agreement. POI: Tam claims Jesus...
  17. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    This from an interaction with GPT, yesterday. Me: What is the person saying? GPT: The person is discussing the Kalam cosmological argument, which posits that the universe had a beginning. However, they are pointing out a perceived flaw in the argument. They argue that while it is true the...
  18. William

    Weak and Strong Agnosticism

    I think a characteristic of being a strong agnostic is that such a position can be used in other conversations not directly related to questions and claims of theism or atheism.
  19. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    Are you saying that you refer to physical as "real" and non-physical as "unreal"? Are you saying that "supernatural" (unreal) is a place-holder of some type - until more information is found? Or, I could think that the experience being had by the one experiencing it, (and reporting it) is...
  20. William

    Featured The Kalam Cosmological Argument William Lane Craig

    More from the other message board. Personality 1. We don't need to agree to a particular name in order for us to both agree we are speaking of the same thing. Personality 2. I think we do. The characteristics of this "Mind" are exactly what is in question at the moment. Personality 1...