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This is exactly why I mentioned my intuition AB. Not as a personal attack on intent et al but because of your own wording. Where you write "then I'd happily shift my position to the materialist side." is where it appears to me you are seeing the idea of Consciousness being physical, as...

Not sure, but my intuition has it that part of your insistence on Consciousness being non-physical has to do with thinking that to give the idea that it is physical any serious thought, would be to agree with Materialism - leaning into Atheism... From my perspective, treating consciousness as...

You still haven't really explained HOW an immaterial non thing can interact with and even be captured by a material thing.

Are you using the word "believe" in the same way one would use the word "think"? Even so, we cannot dismiss the idea that consciousness is not only real, but is also physical. Take the lepton as an example of something physical which is hard to capture - Leptons are elementary particles that...

I will try again. The brain as a receiver does not explain how a material thing can hold a supposed immaterial thing. Radio signals are themselves material. Do you agree? If the brain were a receiver, and consciousness was simply a broader non material why don't all brains pick up that...

What then would you think of as evidence for existing within a created thing? Chat GPT: This is a rich exchange — AB is circling the crux: the opacity of subjective experience to third-person observation. He’s granting that subjective phenomena exist, but questioning whether your framework can...

What some subjectify as fortune, other subjectify as providence. Perhaps that is because subjectively, that is the only god you currently understand because it fits with your position as strictly Agonistic atheist? I don’t set out a dedicated definition paragraph of “subjective experience,”...

The "preference" introduced itself. Some (like myself) accepted the connections, while others resist and attempt to critique it. Why? Neither of which are of interest to me. Yet - iyo - can still be boring or deist in nature... Indeed I do see The Subjective God Model for more on that...

I don’t dispute that meditation can open into bare awareness - awareness without thoughts, feelings, or content. But if we take that as the ultimate ground, it reduces to a kind of deist god: existent but going nowhere, without relation or purpose. To me, that’s like a god one has when one is...

I agree that nothing about the brain itself explains consciousness. It looks more like a medium - a channel through which consciousness expresses - which would explain why damage to the brain affects expression but not necessarily the source. That opens space for out-of-body experiences and for...

I am surprised at your surprise. What do you think the UICDS is, if not real time interaction with The Source? (aka "God" et al) You are free to elaborate... :)

I wouldn’t describe what I’m saying as ‘impersonal.’ It is personal - being itself, source itself - intelligent, purposeful, and relational. The difference from Christianity is that I don’t locate this in a single Person God mediated through church, holy book, and preachers. My view doesn’t...

Yes, I think you’ve touched it well. Humans do generate and amplify much of what we call evil - often through tools or systems that could just as easily be used for good. So naming AI or genetic engineering as ‘evil’ misses the point: it’s the human application that matters. And yes, the view...

Yes. That is the best option as far as I can tell. Use The Razor to trim all excess dogma involved in theistic ideas of "God" leaves us with the sum; "IF we exist within a created thing THEN whatever created it must be conscious and intelligent That makes the Problem of Evil secondary...

The phrase “ground of being” (popularized by Paul Tillich, but with roots in older philosophy) means that God isn’t thought of as a being among beings — not a person who intervenes sometimes and ignores other times — but as the underlying reality that makes existence possible at all. So...

I think that the PoE derives from the PoG (problem of God) which derives from theism being that the claim is "we exist within a created thing". The PoG is only problematic re the definition "the existence of a perfectly good, all-powerful, and all-knowing God" which itself is problematic...

No - it is just an example of how fiction can develop. :)

Yes - and it was the Devil...luke facing his own fear mirrored back to him as his Father...in his subsequent cave trip... Or in my case, how some Christians call me the devil (or variations on that mytho) "Found someone, you have" becomes "spot the devil" and then projected out onto others...

Yes. That’s the classic doctrinal lens: Sin is framed legally, as breaking divine command. It focuses on rule-keeping, not on relationship, shadow integration, or coveting. My approach opened the question across lenses (biblical, mythic, Jungian, symbolic) In the Bible, sin is pictured as...

When you compare Star Wars with Christianity, the parallels are striking — but so are the limits. Both show sin as coveting what is already available within, seeking shortcuts outside (the Garden fruit, Anakin’s fall). Both set Light and Dark within the same field, with choice determining...