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So, this is debatable—i just cant seem to post in that section?—but anyway, as an agnostic, or tbh even a normal person, you can try on frames other than the one we are provided for interpreting the Bible; Yah wont kill you or anything. I began a frame of the Bible splaining the course of a...

ya, can you even imagine living back then? yikes

i suspect that a point might be to see how it was so much worse without these restrictions? An eye for an eye is often derided for much the same reasoning, but ppl dont realize that the point was “you dont get to kill a guy bc he put your eye out,” or iow our normal reaction irl

ok, i edited some up there, still might not be done fwiw anyway, the punishment for useless whining is spiritual death irl, see, we send those ppl to Gehenna right now today even? So surely Yah feels the same way we do about it, practically speaking; whine all you like, irdc, but you arent...

well, your self inflicted symptoms are relieved at least, ya. Bc the serpents rep the complaining, i guess ya, its a weird scene, huh. Its relevance to us is mostly about Jesus associating Himself with it, i guess. Its hard to come to the Bible, via the path that most all of us get to that by...

well, we often associate it with healing, yes; but allopathy is about symptom relief, not really healing. Which ends up being the lesson about the snake on a pole

thats another that ive like barely heard of, ill check it out, tks

4He removed the high places, shattered the sacred pillars, and cut down the Asherah poles. He also demolished the bronze snake called Nehushtanb that Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had burned incense to it but i noticed in the search that there’s also mention of some girl...

ya, i wish i could, but idk; my guess is that they most likely had the same thoughts, and ran on a bell curve just like we do? The official religion doesnt mean that thats how the hoi polloi felt i guess? Plus the Bible records their forays into other gods; the priest having to destroy Nehushtan...

well Scooter, if you take the Bible at all seriously you might consider the part about digging a pit for others to fall into, and i think ive given you enough evidence that the Bible doesnt support any of that once you look, but thats up to you i guess. Merry X ok /GreatWhiteThroneJudgement

ha, priceless

you might winder in passing how it is they never even broached the subject of CoSI tho

man, thats a good question, idk. Ive read stuff that suggested that they werent but then naturally devolved into politics/religion after they chose kings over judges, and ive read stuff that suggested they were. We do have the “no more fruit form this tree” thing, and Hebrew being constructed...

well, your response to that was that all i had was imagination, but wikipedia has a thing on Hel, and the progression has already been traced by others, did hell come from norse/angle scribes? Has gotten a little harder to search, but i mean not a whole lot. Plus you can see that Abaddon etc are...

Anyway Scooter, as near i can tell im as full of crap as the next guy, ok? Which i understand immediately presents an opportunity for a joke by you, but understand what im really saying; idk everything, sometimes im a little off or just plain wrong, but i will even present any new evidence that...

Ever studied where that word came from? In Greek its female (duh), and there is no Hebrew equivalent. I forget how now, but i recall getting to “that done by repetition, rote, or ritual,” which struck me as a decent enough summary. There’s also several Scriptures that reflect that pov, at least...

Well, what would someone inside the camp say to someone outside the camp though? But again, fwiw, ive done this several times now, so that is fairly fam with me, and i dont even blame you, ok. So all of my views are “theologically incorrect” but you cant specify any, fine. An interesting...

um, which interpretation are we talking about, again? If you will be specific, we can def take a look eh

ok that was easy, anyway, your thirty years isnt in vain ok, i remem the angst at the thought of just seemingly abandoning all that lol, and it just really doesnt work like that i guess; you just suddenly see a diff interpretation for the passages that you defined a certain way, for so long...

ha well no one that you are aware of maybe, yes so you say, yes, but i suggest that when we get down to cases that…nonsense can be better than sense, ok. Sometimes nothing is a real cool hand :) Unknown God but yes, and i totally accept that where you are concerned, ok. To put that another...