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    What's your favorite topic on religion or theism to debate on?

    Isn't hell enough to be so unsure of anything? What a torment to remain with no assurance of purpose or destiny. What kind of wild inquiry and second guessing is that? Salvation from the futile emptiness of agnosticism for one. You can't. Savation is not only with God for...
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    Does free-will exist?

    This will take me a few readings to grasp what you're saying. In the meantime, William, do you think WE human beings with our collective minds are responsible for the existence of the universe? Is this successive creations you envision an infinite regress? Are you speaking of an eternity past...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    Rather than talk about Adam's sin I would like to say something about the purpose of Adam's creation. Prior to Adam a dupty authority, a creature rebelled against God. God's would not totally deal with this creature rebel unilaterally by Himself. He would instead create another creature to...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    Our responses may be out of sync. Sure you're free. Don't let me stand in your way. I did add something about the manna issue. Check it again.
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    I have never been too impressed with the Gilgamesh copy-cat theory. If something happened which was in the collective memory of ancient people, so what if there were other versions? So what if there were even presummably previously written versions? Eight people came off the ark. The account...
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    What's your favorite topic on religion or theism to debate on?

    I realize some will receive the words of the New Testament and some will not. Some are not ready. Like "He who has an ear to hear let him hear." Those who have an ear to hear will hear. I like that with you there is something to work with seeing that you have much familiarity with...
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    What's your favorite topic on religion or theism to debate on?

    If I drop my understanding of the New Testament here and pick up your kind of suspicious view on what I shared, what will it do for me? In Christ I have a sense of origin and destiny. In Christ I have peace with my entire past and hope for the future forever. In Christ I have enjoyoment of...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    For a long time I did not think literal eating of some fruit had anything to do with the fall of man. As you suggested previously, we should be willing to confessmaking mistakes. Eventually, I decided that this must be a mistake and by taking the Genesis text as is I could be corrected. I do...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    Look at the RESULT of Adam taking in fruit of that forbidden tree. Look at that result in the whole rest of history Satan is called the one who has the might of death - Heb 2:14 - " him who has the might of death, that is, the devil," Adam relinquished his innocent position and came under...
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    What's your favorite topic on religion or theism to debate on?

    You may be referring to Jesus saying that if He testified concerning Himself His testimony was not valid? (John 5:31) And if Jesus's testimony concerning Himself is not reliable where does that leave the rest of us? Yet, He also said latter He testimony was 100% reliable because He knew...
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    Random or god?

    Do you think that Jesus considered them as literal historical people?
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    In addition to Adam's transgression something of a evil nature entered into Adam's body. He was CONSTITUTED with sin. His constitution was that of a sinning being. Romans 5:19 - For just as through the disobedience of one man the many were constituted sinners, so also through the obedience...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    In the following record of Cain and Abel we see something called SIN operating in Cain's being which he fails to master. Satan injected his nature into Cain destroying him from within. Genesis 4:6,7 - And Jehovah said to Cain, Why are you angry, and why has your countenance fallen? If you do...
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    What was Adam and Eve's sin? Were they set up to fail?

    The problem of the forbidden fruit is not knowledge per se. Knowledge in and of itself is is not bad mouthed in the Bible. In fact even knowledge of good and evil is not bad mouthed in the Bible. Independence and rebellion against the eternal ultimate authority of creation's Govermor...
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    What's your favorite topic on religion or theism to debate on?

    One of the by products of modern relatavism is that people are reluctant to claim to know anything with certainty. "Do ya know what I mean ??" is a frequent phrase meant to portray humilty. LIke - "Do you feel my subjective feeling here? Do you known what I MEAN ?" Now arrogance and...
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    Okay. Let's see if we can liven things up a bit. I'll start a new thread that might generate...

    Okay. Let's see if we can liven things up a bit. I'll start a new thread that might generate some participation.
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    Does free-will exist?

    The following is a true personal testimony. Fact one: I insisted on having my OWN choice. When I became a Christian eventually I wanted to be married. The congregation that I meet with had well meaning match makers. But I DETERMINED within myself that NOBODY but NOBODY was going to sneakily...
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    Science fiction writer David Brin on tech and societal resilience.

    Ihave always like sceience fiction. But I have come to realize that reality according to the Bible is more fascinating that the science fiction imagination. What is really going on in this universe surpasses for me any science fiction I have ever read or seen.
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    Random or god?

    In brief: The tree of life has a simple name - it means life - eternal life - Him who is the origin of being and life - God. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a rather complicated name. My present theory is that it was falsely advertized in a positive light. Perhaps the name...
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    Random or god?

    Fortunately, unlike any other teacher in human history, Jesus said He would come to His lovers and make an abode with. That is a imparting of Himself into their innermost spiritual being. No other teacher, leader, sage, prophet ever made such a promise. John 14:23 - Jesus answered and said to...